Sarah Palin READS CHEAT NOTES on her HAND

[Howard509]

Sarah Palin READS CHEAT NOTES on her HAND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtcVMTZkTZQ

If Sarah Palin is the best tea partiers have to offer, there's no way I can take their movement seriously. Is she really dumb enough to read prepared answers to prepared questions off the palm of her hand?

[Porter Doran]

It earned her $100,000.

The nascent Tea Party is a for-profit organization. It exists to fleece members of a certain American sub-class. Real political parties do not pay potential candidates to speak, and they do not convert contributions into "earnings" that fatten organizers' own wallets.

[mountainguy]

I'm truly sorry your country is so full of dumbasses

[glasshaus]

Not as sorry as we are.

[nabsy]

Geez this woman's fifteen minutes of fame should have ended at 15 seconds...

[Howard509]

Please remember that the tea parties began as part of the Ron Paul campaign in 2007. This was a libertarian movement before it was co-opted by neocons.

[Porter Doran]

Originally Posted by Howard509

Please remember that the tea parties began as part of the Ron Paul campaign in 2007. This was a libertarian movement before it was co-opted by neocons.

They did? The first teabagging I heard of was well into 2009. (And my wife's a Paulite.)

[njtom]

Yesterday, on an interview with Fox News, Sarah Palin told Chris Wallace that Obama could win in 2012 if he declared war on Iran or more strongly supported Israel. http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/07/palin-war-ira/ .
The impression i got is that she feels that those would be good things for him to do.

In the same interview, she said she would consider running for president in 2012. Given her poll ratings with Republicans, she might very well win the nomination, and if the economy's still in bad shape at that time, she could take the election as well.

[Porter Doran]

She has a powerful political vehicle into the homes of Americans now that Fox News has hired her.

[Howard509]

Originally Posted by Porter Doran

They did?

Yes, they did. The GOP has co-opted the movement.

[Pigmalia]

Howard, what's your point? What does it have to do with a Christian anarchist concern?

Her reading off her hand or Obama reading off teleprompters at every opportunity is the least of either of their sins. They are both Statists of the grandest order. Both are committed to Pax Americana.

Arguing over Palin and Obama is like trying to figure out whether you'd rather be drowned or burned to death.

[glasshaus]

No- it's more like deciding whether I want to die in a horrible death or whether I want my kids to. Phrased like that, I'm less concerned. But you have to admit, while neither of them are great moral examples, Palin is a lot less informed about the world around her.

[keith johnson]

Originally Posted by Pigmalia

Howard, what's your point? What does it have to do with a Christian anarchist concern?

Her reading off her hand or Obama reading off teleprompters at every opportunity is the least of either of their sins. They are both Statists of the grandest order. Both are committed to Pax Americana.

Arguing over Palin and Obama is like trying to figure out whether you'd rather be drowned or burned to death.

I cannot agree less. I am not an anarchist so take my comments with a grain of salt, but there is a world of difference between what would happen in a Palin Presidency and in an Obama Presidency, obviously so. IMO.

Keith

[glasshaus]

I agree with you, Keith. Referring to what I said just before you, I think we can all agree that eventually the U.S. as we know it will crash and burn. My belief is that it will probably not be in an Obama presidency, because while he may not memorize all his speeches, I think he's reasonably savvy to politics.
I'm sure Sarah Palin has an area of expertise, but it is not Politics. When it comes to the world around her, she's as dumb as a box of hammers. If Sarah Palin were our president, I think we would be on the fast track to (at the very least) leaving our standing as a first-world nation. And I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen within her presidency.

Of course, it could be like Josiah- when an 8 year old takes office other people make decisions for him.
If we elected Sarah Palin similar things would have to be done.

[Pigmalia]

Palin is nothing but a person with an opinion (presently). Obama as POTUS, on the other hand, is a murderous Statist forcing his will on the entire world by the force of the militarized State powers he now holds. Palin at best is just catnip to get people such as yourself to support him.

This is all a ploy both parties use back and forth to get people worked up to believe they are in some fight over good and evil, when the truth is both sides are evil. They create false dilemmas on almost every issue. It's not OK to try force others to do what you think is right. Let's look at a few examples.

Gay Marriage: Christians should decide for their own selves what the Bible says and what they feel convicted about regarding homosexuality, but regardless of what they decide they have absolutely no business trying to force their convictions on society through coercion of the State. The State has no business telling people what kind of personal relationships they can or can't have, it's a basic issue of autonomy.

Healthcare: God clearly commands us to take care of the poor and sick, but it is up to each person to heed the moral law, not man's job to force others through coercion of the State. We as Christians know what God expects of us, and that doesn't include forcing a moral agenda on others.

Abortion: We know as Christians we are prohibited from murdering, and so we don't. Force, coercion, and murder are the means of the State. We aren't freed by God from the prohibition on murder just because the State slaps a machine gun in our hands and offers us absolution to murder on their behalf. And so why would we expect those with a State view of life not to embrace murder? We are to call them into the Kingdom and the way of peace. It's just not our business to force our ways on them.

The State view of life fights endless moral crusades trying by force to achieve whatever ends its fixated on at the moment. We must reject the means of force for accomplishing those things we value. Just because you might care about the poor or like people having access to healthcare is not justification for supporting Statist means of coercion. It's not the way of Christ's Kingdom.

A moral person worries about their own actions, an immoral person worries about the actions of others. Or as Tolstoy says, "Everyone thinks of changing the world, no one thinks of changing themselves."

[Porter Doran]

Right on, Pigmalia. As power-holders, Ms. Palin and Mr. Obama must be evaluated differently from how they can be evaluated as persons. The world is the enemy of the soul (remember Jesus's proverb weighing the two) -- even of Mr. Obama's soul -- and we dare not lose sight of the facts of its evil potency.